- #NEW YORK BACH TRUMPET SERIAL NUMBERS SERIAL NUMBERS#
- #NEW YORK BACH TRUMPET SERIAL NUMBERS SERIAL NUMBER#
They would have been competitors but in that industry at the time they were friendly toward each other.
#NEW YORK BACH TRUMPET SERIAL NUMBERS SERIAL NUMBER#
If you look at the serial number list page, the few horns that have purchase dates claim that these are late 1940s to mid 1950s.Īccording to Rudy Muck Jr, his father knew Bach but never worked for him but it's possible that some Bach parts were used.
My guess is that these were the offering just after WWII and they are copies of the popular Bach Stradivarius.
#NEW YORK BACH TRUMPET SERIAL NUMBERS SERIAL NUMBERS#
This next group is by far the most sought after by collectors and have serial numbers in the 1000 to 2000 range.
#32300 marked as "Series 97" - these have the Blessing valve blocks yet different inlets and no stop rod so appear to be made at a later date This 1939 catalog cover shows Rudy holding the same trumpet. From what I have been able to find out, Bob played with the Whiteman band from 1938 to 1940. Here is an ad showing Bob Alexy playing this trumpet with the bottom third slide ring. The third photo is a 1920s French Besson which is what everyone seemed to try and copy. The other changes are moving the slide brace forward, no lock nut on the main slide, different slide knobs, and different valve caps and buttons. Some parts will interchange yet the Muck adds a dual-bore design with the bore expanding through the tuning slide. Here is a comparison photo with the Muck on top and Blessing below. #30004 - if this is a Blessing serial number then it dates to c.1937
#157 this one lacks the stop rod on top of the third slide and the owner says there is no evidence that it ever had one #139 this one also has a hand engraved logo yet a little better done #135 with hand engraved bell logo - the only difference is the lack of the stop rod on the third slide I had a conversation with Rudy Muck Jr in 2019 who said that Carl Blessing was a friend of the family for many years and although he could not confirm that they were the source, he thought it was certainly possible. These match ads in 19 so may be the first ones Rudy made in 1936. The Blessing Super Artist style have either 3-digit serial numbers or are in the 30000 range. Serial numbers change so much that I have arranged the trumpets by style groups regardless of the serial number. Unlike other makers, like Bach, who have a distinct style for as long as they were made, Muck horns strike me as being stencil horns from other makers or at the least being made using parts from other makers combined with his own. The origin of Rudy's trumpets has many theories and each of the many different styles found have their own variations so this presentation will try to put them all together and make some sense of it. In 1936, Rudy Muck opens a factory and showroom at #125 East 126th Street in the Bronx with the plan to build trumpets as well as his already famous mouthpieces. The 1921 to 1926 period was a partnership called Ohnhaus & Mück.Īnother J. Joseph came to New York in 1907 from Moravia and operated under J.R. The serial number is: 5790.Possibly the earliest Mück trumpet I have found is this LaSalle model that may have been made or stenciled by Rudy's father Joseph in the 1920s. This instrument has lacquer finish, which has some spots of wear, but overall it looks intact, and that it is possible it is the original lacquer. There is a very long mouthpiece receiver, characteristic of horns from this era and it has an original Bach case in excellent condition - the foil Bach emblem is still intact, and it comes with a NY Bach 7C mouthpiece. The valves have been re-plated and look new, and each one has the instrument's serial number stamped on it. The instrument is in excellent condition. In my opinion, it would be a great horn to use for the Shostakovich Piano Concerto No. This horn makes certain passages notably easier, for example the low excerpt from Bizet's Carmen and the 2nd trumpet parts to Schuman's 2nd Symphony speak extremely well, as does the instrument's upper register. This NY Bach Mercedes is a Medium-bore instrument and it has the classic NY Bach sound, for a fraction of the price of a NY Bach Strad. I am selling the instrument because I settled on a Laskey-Pinc Bb trumpet and I can only keep one Bb trumpet at this time. The instrument was being sold from the collection of Peter Bond and I can provide documentation. This instrument is a 1930's New York Bach Mercedes Bb trumpet in excellent condition, which I recently purchased from J.
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